Thursday, September 22, 2011
Cyber Assignment: "Bodies and Beliefs"
Write a 3-paragraph essay from the assigned chapter in "Bodies and Beliefs"
Outline for the Assignment
What does this section open up for you regarding Tupac's life. Does Dyson make good on his goals and objectives for the biography now that you have come to the end of the book?
Look back at "I Always Wanted. . ." (13-16)?
In a 3-paragraph essay respond to your assigned chapter (6, 7 or 8). If you didn't get an assignment, choose any of the concluding chapters (6, 7 or 8). Also respond to a classmate's post from a chapter different from your own. Use a citation to respond to your comment-on-a-classmate's-post which challenges or expands the claims the writer makes.
The essay needs to include three (3) citations, one per paragraph: a free paraphrase, a block quote, and a shorter citation, all from Dyson.
You also need a works cited page. Each paragraph needs to be between 5-10 sentences long.
Introduction
1. Talk about the chapter, your impressions. List Dyson's major claims or arguments. He generally starts each paragraph with an argument, followed by examples and if it is a sophisticated claim, he might use the following paragraph to continue developing and proving his prior argument.
The way you find the evidence for an argument is to say: So and so is true . . . because. The answer to because is the evidence or proof.
But back to the Intro.
2. List themes, that is, topics that are repeated.
3. Cite evidence from Dyson that agrees with what you are saying here.
4. State the thesis.
Body
1. One paragraph-discussion of the points stated in the thesis. This is where you answer the because question. This is where you give examples and reasons why what you say is true is true.
2. Include a citation. This is a good place for a block quote (a long citation that is justified on the left (indent 10 spaces from the 1-inch margin) without quotation marks.) See http://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/747/03/
Conclusion
1. Bring up lesser, yet equally important themes. Remember the entire book is about Tupac. How does this final section, which addresses Tupac's morality, the body-politic as it were, wrap up Dyson's discussion?
How does this part of the book support or extend previous sections: "Childhood Chains, Adolescent Aspirations" and "Portraits of an Artist?" What does Dyson mean about the black body as canvas, as sacrificial offering, as blight, as stigma and Tupac's artistic response to this blessing and curse?
Do his ecclesiastic inclinations show here, especially in the "Epilogue"?
2. Citation
Read the post below this one as well for other assignments (smile).
Outline for the Assignment
What does this section open up for you regarding Tupac's life. Does Dyson make good on his goals and objectives for the biography now that you have come to the end of the book?
Look back at "I Always Wanted. . ." (13-16)?
In a 3-paragraph essay respond to your assigned chapter (6, 7 or 8). If you didn't get an assignment, choose any of the concluding chapters (6, 7 or 8). Also respond to a classmate's post from a chapter different from your own. Use a citation to respond to your comment-on-a-classmate's-post which challenges or expands the claims the writer makes.
The essay needs to include three (3) citations, one per paragraph: a free paraphrase, a block quote, and a shorter citation, all from Dyson.
You also need a works cited page. Each paragraph needs to be between 5-10 sentences long.
Introduction
1. Talk about the chapter, your impressions. List Dyson's major claims or arguments. He generally starts each paragraph with an argument, followed by examples and if it is a sophisticated claim, he might use the following paragraph to continue developing and proving his prior argument.
The way you find the evidence for an argument is to say: So and so is true . . . because. The answer to because is the evidence or proof.
But back to the Intro.
2. List themes, that is, topics that are repeated.
3. Cite evidence from Dyson that agrees with what you are saying here.
4. State the thesis.
Body
1. One paragraph-discussion of the points stated in the thesis. This is where you answer the because question. This is where you give examples and reasons why what you say is true is true.
2. Include a citation. This is a good place for a block quote (a long citation that is justified on the left (indent 10 spaces from the 1-inch margin) without quotation marks.) See http://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/747/03/
Conclusion
1. Bring up lesser, yet equally important themes. Remember the entire book is about Tupac. How does this final section, which addresses Tupac's morality, the body-politic as it were, wrap up Dyson's discussion?
How does this part of the book support or extend previous sections: "Childhood Chains, Adolescent Aspirations" and "Portraits of an Artist?" What does Dyson mean about the black body as canvas, as sacrificial offering, as blight, as stigma and Tupac's artistic response to this blessing and curse?
Do his ecclesiastic inclinations show here, especially in the "Epilogue"?
2. Citation
Read the post below this one as well for other assignments (smile).
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Jasmine Guillot
Professor Sabir
English 201B 8-8:50 a.m.
25 September 2011
Tupac: But Do the Lord Care?
In this chapter, But Do the Lord Care, Dyson talks about the theme of spirituality that Tupac explores in his lyrics. He also discusses Tupac’s beliefs of God and his thoughts of society and how that is affecting racial and ethnic barriers. As Dyson states, “…Tupac was “bitter” about the poverty he was reared in, but only later, through in his lyrics, did the world discover just how much he had really suffered,” (207).
People did not understand the type of suffering that he was going through nor his relationship with God. By suffering internally and externally from the disadvantages of society towards blacks, Tupac’s beliefs and hardworking skills clash with his relationship with God.
Dyson then talks about the relationship between God and thugs. Tupac questioned if thugs would belong in heaven and if he would accept the lives that thugs are living so Dyson interviews friend Rapper Big Syke about his thoughts of God,
“God knows I’m not running around here trying to do anything wrong to anybody. But if somebody is trying to do something wrong to me, then I know I did wrong to people before, so now I have to realize that it could be just the repercussions from what I did. Now I’ve got to accept it like a man and go to God if I get killed… that’s just how life goes,” (212).
This shows how many people who are living in the thug life have deep meanings and thoughts about God like Tupac and how it affects the way they think about society. Many thugs do not realize how karma and death are related, which gives them the idea that it is okay to kill and that nothing will happen to them afterwards.
Tupac’s despair that he was dealing with might have conflicted with what he wanted God to understand about his beliefs. Dyson discusses the effect of thug life on black culture and how spirituality has given the youth, whether a thug or not, a different view on things. This part of the book supports both sections “Childhood, Chains, and Aspirations” and “Portraits of an Artist” because it does mention his passion for a change of black culture and his spiritual and human beliefs. Tupac’s artistic expression has a huge impact on black culture and how every race should unite to make the world a better place.
Professor Sabir
English 201B 8-8:50 a.m.
25 September 2011
Tupac: But Do the Lord Care?
In this chapter, But Do the Lord Care, Dyson talks about the theme of spirituality that Tupac explores in his lyrics. He also discusses Tupac’s beliefs of God and his thoughts of society and how that is affecting racial and ethnic barriers. As Dyson states, “…Tupac was “bitter” about the poverty he was reared in, but only later, through in his lyrics, did the world discover just how much he had really suffered,” (207).
People did not understand the type of suffering that he was going through nor his relationship with God. By suffering internally and externally from the disadvantages of society towards blacks, Tupac’s beliefs and hardworking skills clash with his relationship with God.
Dyson then talks about the relationship between God and thugs. Tupac questioned if thugs would belong in heaven and if he would accept the lives that thugs are living so Dyson interviews friend Rapper Big Syke about his thoughts of God,
“God knows I’m not running around here trying to do anything wrong to anybody. But if somebody is trying to do something wrong to me, then I know I did wrong to people before, so now I have to realize that it could be just the repercussions from what I did. Now I’ve got to accept it like a man and go to God if I get killed… that’s just how life goes,” (212).
This shows how many people who are living in the thug life have deep meanings and thoughts about God like Tupac and how it affects the way they think about society. Many thugs do not realize how karma and death are related, which gives them the idea that it is okay to kill and that nothing will happen to them afterwards.
Tupac’s despair that he was dealing with might have conflicted with what he wanted God to understand about his beliefs. Dyson discusses the effect of thug life on black culture and how spirituality has given the youth, whether a thug or not, a different view on things. This part of the book supports both sections “Childhood, Chains, and Aspirations” and “Portraits of an Artist” because it does mention his passion for a change of black culture and his spiritual and human beliefs. Tupac’s artistic expression has a huge impact on black culture and how every race should unite to make the world a better place.
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Manuel Flores
Professor Sabir
English 201A 8-8:50
25 September 2011
"Do we hate are women"
In this chapter, Dyson's theme is sexual dalliances and women’s promiscuity. My impressions are that Tupac came off as a hypocrite. The reason I say this because he makes songs on how to respect women and he got convicted on sexual assault charges. Dysons arguments are Human sexuality is a complex amalgam of competing interests that claim space in our evolving erotic identities. The theme here is does a woman deserve to be called a bitch even do she is one and how women should be treated. A lot of girls don’t respect them self and they wonder why they call you bitch. Women think that is ok to referred to them self’s as “bad bitches” (p180)
Dyson agrees with my thesis because in he talks about women and how men call them “bitches” a lot of times it’s because they deserve it if you’re an intelligent women and can carry your self as a lady men wont call you a “bitch.” This is true because there have been times that I called a girl a bitch only because she dint have no type of respect for her self and she was doing things that no lady should do.
Because of the intragender and interracial competition for jobs and education, black women carry yet another burden of “bitch” placed on them by white women who are their ostensible sister. And when one adds the hostilities often directed at black women by black men because they challenge the sexual economy of the black house hold, because they appear less threatening and therefore more acceptable to white men than by black men, or because they seem more harsh and intolerant of black male behavior than white woman. The meaning of “bitch” for black women is complex thus the choice of white woman to claim the “Bitch” mantle is an entirely different affair for black women (p179).
One lesser theme is that Tupac always care about women he always had respect for them even doe they dint have respect for themselves. Tupac morality really showed because he always made music so women would stand up for them self he was the voice for them he made them feel not alone. They all tie in to the book because in "Childhood Chains” it talked about his mom always got mistreated and always fought for her rights and Tupac backed her up by standing up for women. Dyson talked about Tupac using his body as a canvas and how he really used it to show a message and prove a point. His ecclesiastic inclinations do show in the epilogue “kimangu is like Tupac in that he was an outlaw character, a luminary in the movement, except he was really religious” (p255-256).
Professor Sabir
English 201A 8-8:50
25 September 2011
"Do we hate are women"
In this chapter, Dyson's theme is sexual dalliances and women’s promiscuity. My impressions are that Tupac came off as a hypocrite. The reason I say this because he makes songs on how to respect women and he got convicted on sexual assault charges. Dysons arguments are Human sexuality is a complex amalgam of competing interests that claim space in our evolving erotic identities. The theme here is does a woman deserve to be called a bitch even do she is one and how women should be treated. A lot of girls don’t respect them self and they wonder why they call you bitch. Women think that is ok to referred to them self’s as “bad bitches” (p180)
Dyson agrees with my thesis because in he talks about women and how men call them “bitches” a lot of times it’s because they deserve it if you’re an intelligent women and can carry your self as a lady men wont call you a “bitch.” This is true because there have been times that I called a girl a bitch only because she dint have no type of respect for her self and she was doing things that no lady should do.
Because of the intragender and interracial competition for jobs and education, black women carry yet another burden of “bitch” placed on them by white women who are their ostensible sister. And when one adds the hostilities often directed at black women by black men because they challenge the sexual economy of the black house hold, because they appear less threatening and therefore more acceptable to white men than by black men, or because they seem more harsh and intolerant of black male behavior than white woman. The meaning of “bitch” for black women is complex thus the choice of white woman to claim the “Bitch” mantle is an entirely different affair for black women (p179).
One lesser theme is that Tupac always care about women he always had respect for them even doe they dint have respect for themselves. Tupac morality really showed because he always made music so women would stand up for them self he was the voice for them he made them feel not alone. They all tie in to the book because in "Childhood Chains” it talked about his mom always got mistreated and always fought for her rights and Tupac backed her up by standing up for women. Dyson talked about Tupac using his body as a canvas and how he really used it to show a message and prove a point. His ecclesiastic inclinations do show in the epilogue “kimangu is like Tupac in that he was an outlaw character, a luminary in the movement, except he was really religious” (p255-256).
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Ben Towers
Professor Wanda Sabir
English 201A 8am
25 September 2011
Chapter 7
In this chapter “But Do The Lord Care”, Tupac gets really spiritual. He really gets connected with a higher power and the whole religious scene. Dyson states that Tupac Wanted people to think about sin because “There is a spiritual element to life.”This comment was made by Tupac which Dyson put in Chapter 7 (page 204). Tupac was a big believer in religion , but didn’t care for the organization of groups to define their beliefs.
Tupac always questioned the ways of the believers in an organized manor. He also questioned his belief in God as a savor, or a higher power who could kill as well. This question came up in his head on a daily basis. He would stand around the ghettos preaching( if you will) about philosophy and higher learning of biblical principles. This is supported by Dyson in Chapter 7 regarding Tupacs beliefs.
Dyson said, “He was a preacher if you will, who brought a message that young people can identify with today. Who also can relate to what is real. He spoke of circumstances, situations and environments that the youth have to deal with everyday.”This question on what Tupacs real beliefs were supported though out his writing in his poems and most apparently in his songs.
Tupacs religious backround is brought up in previous chapters about his mother being a semi religious person. Afeni brought Tupac to church on more than one occasion. In previous chapters tupac spent a great deal of time going to churches for his fallin brothers. “The Game”, was hard, and many of his brothers he hung around with would be shot or stabbed over disputes with drugs and violence. Tupac said it best,” Only God can judge me”(page 202). He kept that fresh in his mind, knowing his actions would be judged on a greater scale some day. Tupac was a religious man and some of his teachings were true, not always just though.
Professor Wanda Sabir
English 201A 8am
25 September 2011
Chapter 7
In this chapter “But Do The Lord Care”, Tupac gets really spiritual. He really gets connected with a higher power and the whole religious scene. Dyson states that Tupac Wanted people to think about sin because “There is a spiritual element to life.”This comment was made by Tupac which Dyson put in Chapter 7 (page 204). Tupac was a big believer in religion , but didn’t care for the organization of groups to define their beliefs.
Tupac always questioned the ways of the believers in an organized manor. He also questioned his belief in God as a savor, or a higher power who could kill as well. This question came up in his head on a daily basis. He would stand around the ghettos preaching( if you will) about philosophy and higher learning of biblical principles. This is supported by Dyson in Chapter 7 regarding Tupacs beliefs.
Dyson said, “He was a preacher if you will, who brought a message that young people can identify with today. Who also can relate to what is real. He spoke of circumstances, situations and environments that the youth have to deal with everyday.”This question on what Tupacs real beliefs were supported though out his writing in his poems and most apparently in his songs.
Tupacs religious backround is brought up in previous chapters about his mother being a semi religious person. Afeni brought Tupac to church on more than one occasion. In previous chapters tupac spent a great deal of time going to churches for his fallin brothers. “The Game”, was hard, and many of his brothers he hung around with would be shot or stabbed over disputes with drugs and violence. Tupac said it best,” Only God can judge me”(page 202). He kept that fresh in his mind, knowing his actions would be judged on a greater scale some day. Tupac was a religious man and some of his teachings were true, not always just though.
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Ayo Hogue 10077222
english 201a M-F 8a
Professor Sabir
26 September 2011
Ch.6 Do we hate our Woman
Tupac expressed his like for woman and his desire to treat tthem delicately. He didn't feel talking bad to them and calling them derogatory names was necessary to exert his manhood. That's why he couldn't grasp th reason why a girl he liked turned down his request for companiionship. His peer group would call woman the B word and still have woman admire them.
Tupac question how woman should be treated by men in power. From the work place to the schoolhouse,Tupac didn't agree with the standard which we/men treat woman. The B word for instance, which was used to exert some dominance over woman has been turned into a motivating chant by the very paople it was intended to destroy. His mom, Afeni Shakur can attest to this when she says, "Iknow I'm a bitch. I'm proud to be called a BITCH if it means I'm aggressive, assertive, independent, self-determining..."(Dyson.178)In his song "Keep Your Head Up" Tupac says "Let's heal our woman, be real to our woman", and " Since a man can't make one He has no right to tell a woman when and where to create one". A statement to how messed up men's role regarding the possible treatmant of woman.
The standard of woman in the ghetto society was limited to categories of girlfriend, wife of ex-ho. Characteristics of a ghetto woman is one who just wants to drive men away and party. Some men forming a Femi-phobia view of woman. This view was distrust in woman for companionship, child rearing, and daily interacton. The fear woman would call the police on him for not cooperating with any of her sexual degenerate fantasies or even kill him in his sleep kept a lot of male female bonds from forming. Theidea of a companion possibly being viewed as an ex-ho was unfavorable for men seeking a presentable woman to build a long future with and call a wife. The Black man and woman's male role models were of the womanizing pimp hustler type. Woman thus playing the role of supporter lending her talents to a trend of self-defeating internal conflict generation of off-spring who follow in their footsteps.
Tupac not trying to be a part of this category did not call woman B words and was confused by those that liked the termonology. Ultimately he ended up with a sexual assualt charge that would alter his image if not his moral values.
english 201a M-F 8a
Professor Sabir
26 September 2011
Ch.6 Do we hate our Woman
Tupac expressed his like for woman and his desire to treat tthem delicately. He didn't feel talking bad to them and calling them derogatory names was necessary to exert his manhood. That's why he couldn't grasp th reason why a girl he liked turned down his request for companiionship. His peer group would call woman the B word and still have woman admire them.
Tupac question how woman should be treated by men in power. From the work place to the schoolhouse,Tupac didn't agree with the standard which we/men treat woman. The B word for instance, which was used to exert some dominance over woman has been turned into a motivating chant by the very paople it was intended to destroy. His mom, Afeni Shakur can attest to this when she says, "Iknow I'm a bitch. I'm proud to be called a BITCH if it means I'm aggressive, assertive, independent, self-determining..."(Dyson.178)In his song "Keep Your Head Up" Tupac says "Let's heal our woman, be real to our woman", and " Since a man can't make one He has no right to tell a woman when and where to create one". A statement to how messed up men's role regarding the possible treatmant of woman.
The standard of woman in the ghetto society was limited to categories of girlfriend, wife of ex-ho. Characteristics of a ghetto woman is one who just wants to drive men away and party. Some men forming a Femi-phobia view of woman. This view was distrust in woman for companionship, child rearing, and daily interacton. The fear woman would call the police on him for not cooperating with any of her sexual degenerate fantasies or even kill him in his sleep kept a lot of male female bonds from forming. Theidea of a companion possibly being viewed as an ex-ho was unfavorable for men seeking a presentable woman to build a long future with and call a wife. The Black man and woman's male role models were of the womanizing pimp hustler type. Woman thus playing the role of supporter lending her talents to a trend of self-defeating internal conflict generation of off-spring who follow in their footsteps.
Tupac not trying to be a part of this category did not call woman B words and was confused by those that liked the termonology. Ultimately he ended up with a sexual assualt charge that would alter his image if not his moral values.
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Ayo Hogue 10077222
english 201a M-F 8a
Professor Sabir
26 September 2011
Jasmine has an interesting report on her chapter review. Her words of caution to the thugs about their actions and karma consequences was very analytical while tying in the need for God and belief in society.
Race and social class caused some to suffer if not on the "right" side of the fence. Keepin faith in God was made even more difficult.
english 201a M-F 8a
Professor Sabir
26 September 2011
Jasmine has an interesting report on her chapter review. Her words of caution to the thugs about their actions and karma consequences was very analytical while tying in the need for God and belief in society.
Race and social class caused some to suffer if not on the "right" side of the fence. Keepin faith in God was made even more difficult.
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Michelle Nam
Professor Wanda Sabir
English 201A 8-8:50am
26 September 2011
Tupac: But Do the Lord Care
In chapter 7, But Do the Lord Care, Dyson talks about religion and spirit. He tries to get the connection to the religion and the spirituality together. As Dyson states, “ Spirits spurting spiritual lyrics/ like the holy Koran.”(p.203) It talks about how Tupac is into religion, but Tupac thinks spirits and religion in a another way. Also, Tupac was thinking about the society with different people.
Also, Dyson talks about how Tupac is in pain. “God can you feel me/ take me away from all the pressure and all the pain”(p.202) People doesn’t know what Tupac have been going through with the pain and he is asking god to help him relieve the pain. He tries to connect god and Tupac tries to get into a good relationship with his religion. Also, he wants to be in pain free. He tries to go to church and he spends a good time in churches in the past chapters.
In the childhood chains, adolescent aspirations, and portraits of an artists. These three sections talks about his past, his mother Afeni and what have he been through as an artist and his personal life. He also talks about the youth, the reflection on them, and the culture. One of Tupac expression was put into words in his lyrics as an artist and put into poems.
Jasmine made a lot of good points in her essay and so as Ben. As for Jasmine she said that the thoughts about God like Tupac and how it affects the way they think in society. It really depends on the people and how they going to change. She makes a good point out in the religion of God and with the relationship between Tupac and God. Ben has pointed out Tupac religious background and a lot of people have different religion and cultures in their life.
Professor Wanda Sabir
English 201A 8-8:50am
26 September 2011
Tupac: But Do the Lord Care
In chapter 7, But Do the Lord Care, Dyson talks about religion and spirit. He tries to get the connection to the religion and the spirituality together. As Dyson states, “ Spirits spurting spiritual lyrics/ like the holy Koran.”(p.203) It talks about how Tupac is into religion, but Tupac thinks spirits and religion in a another way. Also, Tupac was thinking about the society with different people.
Also, Dyson talks about how Tupac is in pain. “God can you feel me/ take me away from all the pressure and all the pain”(p.202) People doesn’t know what Tupac have been going through with the pain and he is asking god to help him relieve the pain. He tries to connect god and Tupac tries to get into a good relationship with his religion. Also, he wants to be in pain free. He tries to go to church and he spends a good time in churches in the past chapters.
In the childhood chains, adolescent aspirations, and portraits of an artists. These three sections talks about his past, his mother Afeni and what have he been through as an artist and his personal life. He also talks about the youth, the reflection on them, and the culture. One of Tupac expression was put into words in his lyrics as an artist and put into poems.
Jasmine made a lot of good points in her essay and so as Ben. As for Jasmine she said that the thoughts about God like Tupac and how it affects the way they think in society. It really depends on the people and how they going to change. She makes a good point out in the religion of God and with the relationship between Tupac and God. Ben has pointed out Tupac religious background and a lot of people have different religion and cultures in their life.
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Selma Adam
Professor Wanda Sabir
English 201A 8-8:50AM
26 September 2011
Chapter (7): But Do The Lord Care?
In this chapter Dyson talks about Tupac's beliefs in God. He also talks about Tupac's spirituality. Tupac is a hopefulness person but still, the poor black youth should harbor such grand aspirations as Dyson states, "Tupac's hopefulness and ambition befit a seventeen-year-old. Still, it is notable that a poor black youth who was bounced from home to home with little means of support should harbor such grand aspirations." Dyson (205).
Tupac questioned his belief in God as a savor, or a higher power who could kill as well. Tupac was suffering but people did not understand the type of suffering that he was going through.Tupac's relationship with god was good but that conflict with the disadvantages of society towards the blacks. Dyson then talks about the relationship between God and thugs. Tupac questioned if thugs would belong in heaven and if he would accept the lives that thugs are living so Dyson interviews friend Rapper Big Syke about his thoughts of God, “God knows I’m not running around here trying to do anything wrong to anybody. But if somebody is trying to do something wrong to me, then I know I did wrong to people before, so now I have to realize that it could be just the repercussions from what I did. Now I’ve got to accept it like a man and go to God if I get killed… that’s just how life goes,” (212).
Afeni brought Tupac to church on more than one occasion. That shows that Tupac had a religious view since he was young and that is obviously in chapter (6). Tupac knew that god will judge him for every thing and he kept that on mind.
Professor Wanda Sabir
English 201A 8-8:50AM
26 September 2011
Chapter (7): But Do The Lord Care?
In this chapter Dyson talks about Tupac's beliefs in God. He also talks about Tupac's spirituality. Tupac is a hopefulness person but still, the poor black youth should harbor such grand aspirations as Dyson states, "Tupac's hopefulness and ambition befit a seventeen-year-old. Still, it is notable that a poor black youth who was bounced from home to home with little means of support should harbor such grand aspirations." Dyson (205).
Tupac questioned his belief in God as a savor, or a higher power who could kill as well. Tupac was suffering but people did not understand the type of suffering that he was going through.Tupac's relationship with god was good but that conflict with the disadvantages of society towards the blacks. Dyson then talks about the relationship between God and thugs. Tupac questioned if thugs would belong in heaven and if he would accept the lives that thugs are living so Dyson interviews friend Rapper Big Syke about his thoughts of God, “God knows I’m not running around here trying to do anything wrong to anybody. But if somebody is trying to do something wrong to me, then I know I did wrong to people before, so now I have to realize that it could be just the repercussions from what I did. Now I’ve got to accept it like a man and go to God if I get killed… that’s just how life goes,” (212).
Afeni brought Tupac to church on more than one occasion. That shows that Tupac had a religious view since he was young and that is obviously in chapter (6). Tupac knew that god will judge him for every thing and he kept that on mind.
Selma Adam
Professor Wanda Sabir
English 201A 8-8:50AM
26 September 2011
Chapter (7): But Do The Lord Care?
In this chapter Dyson talks about Tupac's beliefs in God. He also talks about Tupac's spirituality. Tupac is a hopefulness person but still, the poor black youth should harbor such grand aspirations as Dyson states, "Tupac's hopefulness and ambition befit a seventeen-year-old. Still, it is notable that a poor black youth who was bounced from home to home with little means of support should harbor such grand aspirations." Dyson (205).
Tupac questioned his belief in God as a savor, or a higher power who could kill as well. Tupac was suffering but people did not understand the type of suffering that he was going through.Tupac's relationship with god was good but that conflict with the disadvantages of society towards the blacks. Dyson then talks about the relationship between God and thugs. Tupac questioned if thugs would belong in heaven and if he would accept the lives that thugs are living so Dyson interviews friend Rapper Big Syke about his thoughts of God, “God knows I’m not running around here trying to do anything wrong to anybody. But if somebody is trying to do something wrong to me, then I know I did wrong to people before, so now I have to realize that it could be just the repercussions from what I did. Now I’ve got to accept it like a man and go to God if I get killed… that’s just how life goes,” (212).
Afeni brought Tupac to church on more than one occasion. That shows that Tupac had a religious view since he was young and we can see that obviously in chapter (6). Tupac knew that god will judge him for every thing in his life and he kept that in mind.
Professor Wanda Sabir
English 201A 8-8:50AM
26 September 2011
Chapter (7): But Do The Lord Care?
In this chapter Dyson talks about Tupac's beliefs in God. He also talks about Tupac's spirituality. Tupac is a hopefulness person but still, the poor black youth should harbor such grand aspirations as Dyson states, "Tupac's hopefulness and ambition befit a seventeen-year-old. Still, it is notable that a poor black youth who was bounced from home to home with little means of support should harbor such grand aspirations." Dyson (205).
Tupac questioned his belief in God as a savor, or a higher power who could kill as well. Tupac was suffering but people did not understand the type of suffering that he was going through.Tupac's relationship with god was good but that conflict with the disadvantages of society towards the blacks. Dyson then talks about the relationship between God and thugs. Tupac questioned if thugs would belong in heaven and if he would accept the lives that thugs are living so Dyson interviews friend Rapper Big Syke about his thoughts of God, “God knows I’m not running around here trying to do anything wrong to anybody. But if somebody is trying to do something wrong to me, then I know I did wrong to people before, so now I have to realize that it could be just the repercussions from what I did. Now I’ve got to accept it like a man and go to God if I get killed… that’s just how life goes,” (212).
Afeni brought Tupac to church on more than one occasion. That shows that Tupac had a religious view since he was young and we can see that obviously in chapter (6). Tupac knew that god will judge him for every thing in his life and he kept that in mind.
James Kwon
Professor Sabir
English 201A 8-8:50 am
26 September 2011
Tupac: I got your name "tatted" on my arm
In this chapter, Dyson talks about how writing on the body is a gesture of self expression and that getting "tatted" tells a story. Tupac states, " But now that i found something i know i'm dying with, regardless... i tell cats, if you don't have nothing to live for, find something to die for"(243).
Tupac states that a true thug marks his body of his loved ones,
" referring to tupac's 50 niggaz emblem...this means when you come up against me, its like coming against 50 niggas, because I've got the souls of all my brothers in me"(243)feeling the pain of his fallen brothers he engraves the saying "50 niggaz" on his body so that they will always be with him in the heart.
a another theme Dyson talks about is self respect. I mean in most songs women are referred to as "bitch" or "hoe" and i think its just wrong for women to accept being called that. i mean if your a woman that has no respect for your self and do thing a lady shouldn't do then you deserve being called "bitch", but women should never once think they are inferior to men as they are the ones having the babies.
Professor Sabir
English 201A 8-8:50 am
26 September 2011
Tupac: I got your name "tatted" on my arm
In this chapter, Dyson talks about how writing on the body is a gesture of self expression and that getting "tatted" tells a story. Tupac states, " But now that i found something i know i'm dying with, regardless... i tell cats, if you don't have nothing to live for, find something to die for"(243).
Tupac states that a true thug marks his body of his loved ones,
" referring to tupac's 50 niggaz emblem...this means when you come up against me, its like coming against 50 niggas, because I've got the souls of all my brothers in me"(243)feeling the pain of his fallen brothers he engraves the saying "50 niggaz" on his body so that they will always be with him in the heart.
a another theme Dyson talks about is self respect. I mean in most songs women are referred to as "bitch" or "hoe" and i think its just wrong for women to accept being called that. i mean if your a woman that has no respect for your self and do thing a lady shouldn't do then you deserve being called "bitch", but women should never once think they are inferior to men as they are the ones having the babies.
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Jasmine Guillot
Professor Sabir
English 201B 8-8:50 a.m.
26 September 2011
Response to Ch. 6
Responding to Manuel Flores's summary of Ch.6: Do We hate our Women, he has a lot of insight on how women do not respect themselves and how the word "bitch" affects every woman, especially those of color. Tupac really cared for these women to be respected and not called out of their name. Men mistreat women because they feel that they might have some type of male pride power over them due to how their inappropriate clothing gives off the statement, "I don't care about my body so people can intrude if they want to."
One interesting thing was when Flores stated that Tupac was a hyprocite because of being convicted of sexual assault. This does show hypocrisy because Tupac says and raps that he cares about the women in the world but however is making wrong decisions that makes him sound like he is going against his word. In this way, maybe Tupac was making a wrong decision and realized his ways and still tried to change even if it made him a different person.
Professor Sabir
English 201B 8-8:50 a.m.
26 September 2011
Response to Ch. 6
Responding to Manuel Flores's summary of Ch.6: Do We hate our Women, he has a lot of insight on how women do not respect themselves and how the word "bitch" affects every woman, especially those of color. Tupac really cared for these women to be respected and not called out of their name. Men mistreat women because they feel that they might have some type of male pride power over them due to how their inappropriate clothing gives off the statement, "I don't care about my body so people can intrude if they want to."
One interesting thing was when Flores stated that Tupac was a hyprocite because of being convicted of sexual assault. This does show hypocrisy because Tupac says and raps that he cares about the women in the world but however is making wrong decisions that makes him sound like he is going against his word. In this way, maybe Tupac was making a wrong decision and realized his ways and still tried to change even if it made him a different person.
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Selma Adam
Professor Wanda Sabir
English 201A 8-8:50AM
26 September 2011
Responding to Jasmine Guillot's summary of chapter (7): "But Do The Lord Care?", she made a good point when she talked about the relationship between the god and thugs. She also made a good point when she talked about Tupac's suffering from the disadvantages of society towards blacks.
Responding to Manuel Flores's essay of chapter (6): "Do We Hate Our Women?", he made a good point when he talkes about why women deserve to be called a bitch even do she is one and how women should be treated.
Professor Wanda Sabir
English 201A 8-8:50AM
26 September 2011
Responding to Jasmine Guillot's summary of chapter (7): "But Do The Lord Care?", she made a good point when she talked about the relationship between the god and thugs. She also made a good point when she talked about Tupac's suffering from the disadvantages of society towards blacks.
Responding to Manuel Flores's essay of chapter (6): "Do We Hate Our Women?", he made a good point when he talkes about why women deserve to be called a bitch even do she is one and how women should be treated.
Corazon Tinio
Professor Wanda Sabir
English 201A 8-8:50am
26 September 2011
Chapter Seven Summary
I always wonder about the kind of faith Tupac has with god. I am so glad, that I was assigned with chapter so I will be able to dig deeper on this subject. My impression about Tupac was proven to be wrong after reading Dyson’s book. I grew up with Tupac’s music. Though he might not be someone I admire, his talent is amazing. His music reflects so much of his beliefs in life which I find very disturbing. Dyson however explores all areas of his life including his pain and his passion for reading. Dyson did a great job in putting this book together by interviewing all those people that are close to his subject (Tupac). He titled chapter seven “Do The Lord Care”, to explore his findings about this matter.
Dyson explored the subject of god in Tupac’s life. Tupac is very confused person, which led him to read and to try to find answer. Dyson wrote, “To be sure, Tupac’s religious ideas were complex and orthodox, perhaps even contradictory, though that would not make him unique among believers. From his youth, Tupac was interested in spiritual matters” (Dyson 204). Tupac search from answers reading Judaism, Christianity and Islam. I am sure he can quote the bible more that many Christians do. With his vast knowledge about religion, he can debate with religious leader and convert them of his beliefs. No one can change his mind. He has never ending search for truth. Dyson wrote, “Although he was deeply spiritual, Steinberg says that Tupac sought to question organized religion” (Dyson 204). Tupac might be spiritual but he has no strong grasp of his beliefs in one God. He knows that there is such thing as sin and uses it to breakdown ethnic barrier. Dyson wrote,
According to Steinberg, Tupac was especially interested in making people think
about conception of sin: “He really wanted to question [sin] so you’d under-
stand that there is a spiritual element to life. That if you don’t get the sense of
God in your breath and your being on this planet, you’ve lost it, [and that] you
have to really come to truth there is a spiritual force in this universe . . . to help
correct what the Bible should teach.” It is apparent that Tupac aimed to enhance
awareness of the divine, of spiritual reality, by means of challenging orthodox
beliefs and traditional religious practices. Steinberg says that Tupac aimed to use
his spiritual beliefs to tear down ethnic and national barriers.” (Dyson 204).
In this chapter, Dyson clearly states all Tupac’s belief in religion and God. Though Tupac may have strong sense of that there is God, He has do not have very much knowledge of who his God is. I can quote as many quotes Dyson wrote, but the bottom line is Tupac is searching for answer if God do care why he was in the situation or destiny he was in. Tupac’s prison sentence changed in him. He no longer cared for many things that he cares about. Dyson wrote, “Tupac was especially adept at this branch of postmortem poetry” (Dyson 228). Tupac was a lost sheep who doesn’t have a strong foundation of his faith. Though he believes in God, he doesn’t know what his relationship is God. Dyson wrote, “It was this divided soul and the people he loved and loathed that Tupac brought to the God he never gave up on. His relationship to God during his rap career took the form of an ongoing argument about the suffering he saw and the evil he endured and expressed” (Dyson 229).
I honestly feel so bad for Tupac. He search and not find the true meaning of peace. He has the very basic knowledge of God but never know the full extent of what it is like to have God. I am a Christian. I would say that I am not perfect but I know who God is to me and I have the respect of what God doesn’t want. I am not sure if he is rebelling against God, in spite of what he knows or maybe he is testing God.
Professor Wanda Sabir
English 201A 8-8:50am
26 September 2011
Chapter Seven Summary
I always wonder about the kind of faith Tupac has with god. I am so glad, that I was assigned with chapter so I will be able to dig deeper on this subject. My impression about Tupac was proven to be wrong after reading Dyson’s book. I grew up with Tupac’s music. Though he might not be someone I admire, his talent is amazing. His music reflects so much of his beliefs in life which I find very disturbing. Dyson however explores all areas of his life including his pain and his passion for reading. Dyson did a great job in putting this book together by interviewing all those people that are close to his subject (Tupac). He titled chapter seven “Do The Lord Care”, to explore his findings about this matter.
Dyson explored the subject of god in Tupac’s life. Tupac is very confused person, which led him to read and to try to find answer. Dyson wrote, “To be sure, Tupac’s religious ideas were complex and orthodox, perhaps even contradictory, though that would not make him unique among believers. From his youth, Tupac was interested in spiritual matters” (Dyson 204). Tupac search from answers reading Judaism, Christianity and Islam. I am sure he can quote the bible more that many Christians do. With his vast knowledge about religion, he can debate with religious leader and convert them of his beliefs. No one can change his mind. He has never ending search for truth. Dyson wrote, “Although he was deeply spiritual, Steinberg says that Tupac sought to question organized religion” (Dyson 204). Tupac might be spiritual but he has no strong grasp of his beliefs in one God. He knows that there is such thing as sin and uses it to breakdown ethnic barrier. Dyson wrote,
According to Steinberg, Tupac was especially interested in making people think
about conception of sin: “He really wanted to question [sin] so you’d under-
stand that there is a spiritual element to life. That if you don’t get the sense of
God in your breath and your being on this planet, you’ve lost it, [and that] you
have to really come to truth there is a spiritual force in this universe . . . to help
correct what the Bible should teach.” It is apparent that Tupac aimed to enhance
awareness of the divine, of spiritual reality, by means of challenging orthodox
beliefs and traditional religious practices. Steinberg says that Tupac aimed to use
his spiritual beliefs to tear down ethnic and national barriers.” (Dyson 204).
In this chapter, Dyson clearly states all Tupac’s belief in religion and God. Though Tupac may have strong sense of that there is God, He has do not have very much knowledge of who his God is. I can quote as many quotes Dyson wrote, but the bottom line is Tupac is searching for answer if God do care why he was in the situation or destiny he was in. Tupac’s prison sentence changed in him. He no longer cared for many things that he cares about. Dyson wrote, “Tupac was especially adept at this branch of postmortem poetry” (Dyson 228). Tupac was a lost sheep who doesn’t have a strong foundation of his faith. Though he believes in God, he doesn’t know what his relationship is God. Dyson wrote, “It was this divided soul and the people he loved and loathed that Tupac brought to the God he never gave up on. His relationship to God during his rap career took the form of an ongoing argument about the suffering he saw and the evil he endured and expressed” (Dyson 229).
I honestly feel so bad for Tupac. He search and not find the true meaning of peace. He has the very basic knowledge of God but never know the full extent of what it is like to have God. I am a Christian. I would say that I am not perfect but I know who God is to me and I have the respect of what God doesn’t want. I am not sure if he is rebelling against God, in spite of what he knows or maybe he is testing God.
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Arthur Gilbert
Professor Sabir
English 201B 1:30 – 3:20 pm
25 September 2011
“But do the Lord Care?”
Dyson theme in chapter 7 of Holler if You Hear Me, is the grasp for inner solitude, the spiritual deity, and race equality. Dyson explains Tupacs last moments with a spiritual deity that he believes to be neither good nor evil, but rather a model of hope. Tupac used these inspirations to impact his lyrics for people to have a better comprehension of how to cope with life. Dyson states, “Is there a heaven for a G?” (211).
No one quite understood what happened to Tupac when he was released from jail, but it converted him into a more powerful older self, which consumed his main goals. Dyson states, “I am getting rid of guns; I am getting rid of all these niggas around me. I am changing, Jada. I don’t want to do this rap thing anymore. I am just going to act.”(215). This was what he wanted to do before he went to jail. He wanted to have peace, like how many people dream of a place where things are quiet and no intrusions or obstacles stand in your way. Tupac wanted that dream, but the opposite happened to him when he got out. He became more chaotic, a vengeance craver and depressed. Tupac came out like the Anakin Skywalker of Star Wars trilogy where the dark side has consumed their mind.
Tupac had many influences throughout his life, but there was one that stood out amongst them all: God. Dyson states, “We were just always talking, ‘God, please forgive me,’ because it’s serious out here. It’s the only thing we got.”(212). He believes that there is a place where people go to when they die, and for that to happen, good things must happen. Regardless for goals to reach somewhere that is considered great, Tupac believes that kind things should be done for people regardless of those goals.
Racial segregation has been going on for years since the time they were slaves till the late 1900s. Even still, there have been problems with white superiority over the blacks. Tupac believed that blacks should not work for the white people because that just reminds them of what they use to do as slaves. Rather, black people should make their own companies and not be entitled to white people. This has been the idea of the Black Panther organization for a long time, but it has not been put into its fullest effect.
All of these themes tie in with this chapter of the book, because they explain about Tupacs last moments and his thoughts of reality. He believed in a God that can either help or destroy people’s lives. Tupac wanted to grasp inner peace, but to no prevail. There was a dream for pure equality between all races, but always seems that the white people have their ways of being superior. Tupac took these themes, and combined them into his lyrics to portray a more powerful image of life. Dyson states, “He was their preacher, if you will, who brought a message that young people can identify with, related to what was real, that spoke to the reality of the circumstances, situations and environments they have to deal with every day.”(202).
Professor Sabir
English 201B 1:30 – 3:20 pm
25 September 2011
“But do the Lord Care?”
Dyson theme in chapter 7 of Holler if You Hear Me, is the grasp for inner solitude, the spiritual deity, and race equality. Dyson explains Tupacs last moments with a spiritual deity that he believes to be neither good nor evil, but rather a model of hope. Tupac used these inspirations to impact his lyrics for people to have a better comprehension of how to cope with life. Dyson states, “Is there a heaven for a G?” (211).
No one quite understood what happened to Tupac when he was released from jail, but it converted him into a more powerful older self, which consumed his main goals. Dyson states, “I am getting rid of guns; I am getting rid of all these niggas around me. I am changing, Jada. I don’t want to do this rap thing anymore. I am just going to act.”(215). This was what he wanted to do before he went to jail. He wanted to have peace, like how many people dream of a place where things are quiet and no intrusions or obstacles stand in your way. Tupac wanted that dream, but the opposite happened to him when he got out. He became more chaotic, a vengeance craver and depressed. Tupac came out like the Anakin Skywalker of Star Wars trilogy where the dark side has consumed their mind.
Tupac had many influences throughout his life, but there was one that stood out amongst them all: God. Dyson states, “We were just always talking, ‘God, please forgive me,’ because it’s serious out here. It’s the only thing we got.”(212). He believes that there is a place where people go to when they die, and for that to happen, good things must happen. Regardless for goals to reach somewhere that is considered great, Tupac believes that kind things should be done for people regardless of those goals.
Racial segregation has been going on for years since the time they were slaves till the late 1900s. Even still, there have been problems with white superiority over the blacks. Tupac believed that blacks should not work for the white people because that just reminds them of what they use to do as slaves. Rather, black people should make their own companies and not be entitled to white people. This has been the idea of the Black Panther organization for a long time, but it has not been put into its fullest effect.
All of these themes tie in with this chapter of the book, because they explain about Tupacs last moments and his thoughts of reality. He believed in a God that can either help or destroy people’s lives. Tupac wanted to grasp inner peace, but to no prevail. There was a dream for pure equality between all races, but always seems that the white people have their ways of being superior. Tupac took these themes, and combined them into his lyrics to portray a more powerful image of life. Dyson states, “He was their preacher, if you will, who brought a message that young people can identify with, related to what was real, that spoke to the reality of the circumstances, situations and environments they have to deal with every day.”(202).
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Jessica Tam
Professor Wanda Sabir
English 201A 8-8:50
26 September 2011
Chapter 6: Do we Hate our Women?
In this chapter, Dyson talks about how Tupac wanted to be recognized. He states, “The fragments of Tupac’s conflicting about gender coalesce in his revealing story: performing chivalrous deeds, identifying with female suffering, chafing at irrational female preferences, envying the erotic fortunes of the bad boy and insulting women with the epithets he formerly loathed.” (p.176) This shows how he wants to fit in society. He does not want to be looked down upon.
Another theme is Tupac’s femiphobia view towards women. Dyson states, “femiphobia-the fear and disdain of the female expressed in verbal abuse and protracted resentment of women.” (p.181) Tupac did not know how to view women.
In the Dear Mama, Afeni’s struggle to live through hardship caused Tupac to lose his sense of direction towards life. Tupac did not have anyone to rely on but to be independent.
Professor Wanda Sabir
English 201A 8-8:50
26 September 2011
Chapter 6: Do we Hate our Women?
In this chapter, Dyson talks about how Tupac wanted to be recognized. He states, “The fragments of Tupac’s conflicting about gender coalesce in his revealing story: performing chivalrous deeds, identifying with female suffering, chafing at irrational female preferences, envying the erotic fortunes of the bad boy and insulting women with the epithets he formerly loathed.” (p.176) This shows how he wants to fit in society. He does not want to be looked down upon.
Another theme is Tupac’s femiphobia view towards women. Dyson states, “femiphobia-the fear and disdain of the female expressed in verbal abuse and protracted resentment of women.” (p.181) Tupac did not know how to view women.
In the Dear Mama, Afeni’s struggle to live through hardship caused Tupac to lose his sense of direction towards life. Tupac did not have anyone to rely on but to be independent.
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Jason Kim
Professor Wanda Sabir
English 201 B
27 September 2011
Chapter 6 summary.
In chapter six of Holler if ya hear me Dyson expands on Tupac’s relationships with women. The chapter also expands on Tupacs portrayal of woman in his songs. This chapter explains why Tupac had trouble finding someone as well. The way women viewed him is a very interesting discussion point. Tupac and his relationship with women is just another example of his duality.
Tupac was definitely influenced by his attempt to embrace the “thug life” of those he sought to reach in his portrayal of women throughout his music. Dyson states that ”the women who understood his gentle side did not understand his thug side and vice versa.” women that knew him viewed him as a very charming individual and those who viewed him exclusively through his music were probably confused. This being due to the back and forth view in his songs. Which in the end shows his conflicted history.
This chapter really highlights the conflicted media image of Tupac. The man who was a gentle giant versus the brash arrogant side. People who know him love him while society is markedly confused.. Isolation via confusion leading to self destructive habits. Along with his enduring legacy as a great
Professor Wanda Sabir
English 201 B
27 September 2011
Chapter 6 summary.
In chapter six of Holler if ya hear me Dyson expands on Tupac’s relationships with women. The chapter also expands on Tupacs portrayal of woman in his songs. This chapter explains why Tupac had trouble finding someone as well. The way women viewed him is a very interesting discussion point. Tupac and his relationship with women is just another example of his duality.
Tupac was definitely influenced by his attempt to embrace the “thug life” of those he sought to reach in his portrayal of women throughout his music. Dyson states that ”the women who understood his gentle side did not understand his thug side and vice versa.” women that knew him viewed him as a very charming individual and those who viewed him exclusively through his music were probably confused. This being due to the back and forth view in his songs. Which in the end shows his conflicted history.
This chapter really highlights the conflicted media image of Tupac. The man who was a gentle giant versus the brash arrogant side. People who know him love him while society is markedly confused.. Isolation via confusion leading to self destructive habits. Along with his enduring legacy as a great
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Leslie Meekins
Professor Sabir English 201 A 1:30-3:20 September 27, 2011
How long will the mourn me?
Reading Holler if you here me by Michael Eric Dyson has given me a clear view on Tupac Shakur and his life. Towards the end of the book in chapter eight, “How long will they morn me.” The author talks about Tupac Shakur and how in the last few weeks of his short life, Tupac was charged with gun possession in a felony case in L.A. Not long after that Tupac was killed, and his body had been cremated. Rumors spread around claiming he faked his death, but it was true he was dead. Many people failed to accept reality. He’s too young to die, too beautiful, to fluenctial. The feeling of hate on behalf of his death.
There was something interesting to me that caught my eye. As “Dyson states “it would seem that dying relieves a person of ethical obligations epically since that nation of a persons hood is fundamentally changed once the body is no longer here and the person can no longer receive there claims or make them. Dying sometimes does relieve a person from stress, heartache and pain but does the person leave his loved ones? Even though that special person is the hoods and the block will stay the same or increase. Tupac Shakur has many people who can make claims for him because he was just that powerful. He consistently receives claims even though he’s not physically with us now he is still in our spirit, our songs and our young men today.
Tupac was compared to many other popular artists James Dean, Elvis, even Marilyn Monroe. Even though Tupac was dead and gone many of his fans still remembered him and still played his music. He was one of the many the many artist to be featured in videos and albums after his death. A till this day I hear his music being played.
Professor Sabir English 201 A 1:30-3:20 September 27, 2011
How long will the mourn me?
Reading Holler if you here me by Michael Eric Dyson has given me a clear view on Tupac Shakur and his life. Towards the end of the book in chapter eight, “How long will they morn me.” The author talks about Tupac Shakur and how in the last few weeks of his short life, Tupac was charged with gun possession in a felony case in L.A. Not long after that Tupac was killed, and his body had been cremated. Rumors spread around claiming he faked his death, but it was true he was dead. Many people failed to accept reality. He’s too young to die, too beautiful, to fluenctial. The feeling of hate on behalf of his death.
There was something interesting to me that caught my eye. As “Dyson states “it would seem that dying relieves a person of ethical obligations epically since that nation of a persons hood is fundamentally changed once the body is no longer here and the person can no longer receive there claims or make them. Dying sometimes does relieve a person from stress, heartache and pain but does the person leave his loved ones? Even though that special person is the hoods and the block will stay the same or increase. Tupac Shakur has many people who can make claims for him because he was just that powerful. He consistently receives claims even though he’s not physically with us now he is still in our spirit, our songs and our young men today.
Tupac was compared to many other popular artists James Dean, Elvis, even Marilyn Monroe. Even though Tupac was dead and gone many of his fans still remembered him and still played his music. He was one of the many the many artist to be featured in videos and albums after his death. A till this day I hear his music being played.
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Sabrina Ehrenfeld
Professor Sabir
English 201A 1:30-3:20 Pm
22 September 2011
Chapter 8 Summary.
The title of chapter 8 is "I got your name tatted on my arm." This chapter basically summarizes how Tupac was a "thug". Tupac was a very inspirational legend of our time that still lives in our hearts today. He is just like Bob Marley, memorable and unforgettable. The way Tupac touched people with his music and poems were all very different factors of how important he was. It says in the book that the ink on his body was his way of self-expression. The tattoos that covered his physique were road signs along Tupac's unfolding, meandering identity. The ink on his body gave the world an inkling that raged in his breasts. Each of his tattoos was a symbol of something very rare; it was an image of his own interpretation of the meaning of life. That meaning included how he chose to live, what he lived for, and his own personal dreams and goals. Some of the noted tattoos were "Thug Life", "2Pac", "Nefertiti", "Outlaw", "Tatted", "Exodus 18:11", and "50 Niggaz".
Tupac lived in a way that he described as thug life. The image that he chose to express was comprised of nose studs, earrings, head rags, low-sagging jeans, designer sweatshirts, and Rolex watches. He was brought up in an era that became a permanent staple in how people conduct themselves, including a fashion that is still followed today. The fact that Tupac had a bullet riddled body is an unavoidable symbol of the rage and murder that destroys precious black bodies. Source says: "Tupac's body of work, his work on his body, and his work in his body was work in progress." Everything he did made him portrayed as him living the thug life and it also, gave him the bad boy image. Tupac walked into a Holland studio while the song "Mozart" was playing and everyone was shocked that he was actually listening to it.
Tupac was a drug addict for a while and he also really liked Jada Pinkett Smith. Caddandra Butcher (source) tells "I remember when he went and got his tattoo and it was '50 Niggaz' she asked him what it meant. He told me "this means when you come up against me, it’s like coming up against fifty niggaz, because I’ve got the souls of all my brothers in me”. Danyel Smith (source) could not believe that Tupac was dead. Tupac knew he was going to die at a young age. As Smith says, "he still kept throwing his beautiful, tattooed, wounded, conflicted, drugged, lurching, representative, fighting, cursing, defiant, loving, needy, sacrificial body in the way”. Tupac was into the saggy pants and hoodie look and nobody could change his opinion. His life revolved around rap and hip hop. This chapter shows the pros and cons of Tupac and his lifestyle.
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Professor Sabir
English 201A 1:30-3:20 Pm
22 September 2011
Chapter 8 Summary.
The title of chapter 8 is "I got your name tatted on my arm." This chapter basically summarizes how Tupac was a "thug". Tupac was a very inspirational legend of our time that still lives in our hearts today. He is just like Bob Marley, memorable and unforgettable. The way Tupac touched people with his music and poems were all very different factors of how important he was. It says in the book that the ink on his body was his way of self-expression. The tattoos that covered his physique were road signs along Tupac's unfolding, meandering identity. The ink on his body gave the world an inkling that raged in his breasts. Each of his tattoos was a symbol of something very rare; it was an image of his own interpretation of the meaning of life. That meaning included how he chose to live, what he lived for, and his own personal dreams and goals. Some of the noted tattoos were "Thug Life", "2Pac", "Nefertiti", "Outlaw", "Tatted", "Exodus 18:11", and "50 Niggaz".
Tupac lived in a way that he described as thug life. The image that he chose to express was comprised of nose studs, earrings, head rags, low-sagging jeans, designer sweatshirts, and Rolex watches. He was brought up in an era that became a permanent staple in how people conduct themselves, including a fashion that is still followed today. The fact that Tupac had a bullet riddled body is an unavoidable symbol of the rage and murder that destroys precious black bodies. Source says: "Tupac's body of work, his work on his body, and his work in his body was work in progress." Everything he did made him portrayed as him living the thug life and it also, gave him the bad boy image. Tupac walked into a Holland studio while the song "Mozart" was playing and everyone was shocked that he was actually listening to it.
Tupac was a drug addict for a while and he also really liked Jada Pinkett Smith. Caddandra Butcher (source) tells "I remember when he went and got his tattoo and it was '50 Niggaz' she asked him what it meant. He told me "this means when you come up against me, it’s like coming up against fifty niggaz, because I’ve got the souls of all my brothers in me”. Danyel Smith (source) could not believe that Tupac was dead. Tupac knew he was going to die at a young age. As Smith says, "he still kept throwing his beautiful, tattooed, wounded, conflicted, drugged, lurching, representative, fighting, cursing, defiant, loving, needy, sacrificial body in the way”. Tupac was into the saggy pants and hoodie look and nobody could change his opinion. His life revolved around rap and hip hop. This chapter shows the pros and cons of Tupac and his lifestyle.
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